(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[AGA]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[7200]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
GN[US Open Round 2 - 2008 US GO Congress - Matthew Burell (7d) vs Myungwan Kim (8p)]PW[Matthew Burrall]PB[Myungwan Kim]WR[7d]BR[8p]DT[2008-08-04]EV[US Open]RO[2]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]US[Casey Alexander]C[Vade [6k\]: 8p? Madness
Oame [2k\]: 8p board 5?
road2hell [5d\]: weak 8p lol
olelund [4d\]: myunwan is weak 8p?
chiyochan [5k\]: that is so unrespectful ...
olelund [4d\]: many probably wouldn't say so in korea 
olelund [4d\]: matthew'd need 2 handi, in my honest opinion
road2hell [5d\]: it was a JOKE
chiyochan [5k\]: glad to hear that :)
road2hell [5d\]: kyu players have no humor
road2hell [5d\]: :-)
chiyochan [5k\]: hoho :)) not true
kishambo [4k\]: whwew can i find results of the games of this year us go congress?
Tsuijin [1d\]: myungwan is the one that beat tartrate
kishambo [4k\]: where*
road2hell [5d\]: no that guy wasnt pro
bb123 [4k\]: he is the guy that beat by his mother
road2hell [5d\]: thats a bad joke
morph [4k\]: wow 8p
]RE[B+Resign]
;B[cp]
;W[qd]C[Groningen [10k\]: mirror go
olelund [4d\]: rank means little morph- nowadays 1p routinely beat 8,9ps in korea
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;B[od]C[HiKruNoFan: 2 moves = 2 tesuji
morph [4k\]: it still means it's a professional with a lot of experience
Beanbag [2d\]: why do they all gota be at the same time! i cant decide which one to watch
USGO5 [-\]: Welcome to Round 2 of the US Open!
Sweetmango: They're all slow games, watch all of them!
USGO5 [-\]: We’re broadcasting live from Portland, Oregon
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;W[oq]C[Beanbag [2d\]: u get more out of it by focusing on one
USGO5 [-\]:  The top boards are being broadcast live by the American Go E-Journal; go news from around the world, free every week via email; sign up at www.usgo.org
USGO5 [-\]: Time limits are 2 hours basic time, 5 periods of 30 seconds byo yomi.
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;B[qp]C[morph [4k\]: f4
morph [4k\]: no one to kibitz ? :)
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;W[po]
;B[qo]
;W[pn]
;B[qm]C[USGO5 [-\]: Our broadcasting team today: Game Recorders: Todd Heidenreich (Board 1); Dennis Wheeler (Bd 2); Richard Dolen (Bd 3); Tom Hodges (Bd 4); Casey Alexander (Bd 5); Matthew Heymering (KGS admin); Steve Colburn (IT/back-up); Chris Garlock, Managing Editor
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;W[eq]C[USGO5 [-\]: fr Board 1: Mingjiu Jiang is a Chinese 7-dan professional. He’s the brother of Zhujiu “Jujo” Jiang and the author of Punishing and Correcting Joseki Mistakes, and, with Guo Juan, of All about Joseki as well as co-editor, with his brother, of "Weiqi Technique Encyclopedia." He’s the winner of the Western Section of the 2004, 2006, and 2008 North American Toyota Denso Oza Championships.
USGO5 [-\]: Sorry, that info was posted here incorrectly.
kishambo [4k\]: :D
majid [1d\]: who is kim?
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;B[jq]C[holynec [2k?\]: Thanks usgo5 for relaying ^-^
USGO5 [-\]: You're welcome.  ;-)
USGO5 [-\]: The weeklong annual U.S. Go Congress is the biggest event on the North American calendar and features a number of tournaments – including the U.S. Open and North American Ing Masters (NAIM) – as well as lectures and simuls with more than a dozen professionals from the United States, Japan, China and Korea.
USGO5 [-\]:  Click here  http://www.usgo.org/congress/2008/pairs-r2.html for the Round 2 pairings and here http://www.usgo.org/naim/band-matrix/42 for the results -- and game records – from the top boards. Photos of the top players in the Open and NAIM are also posted online http://www.usgo.org/congress/2008/openplayers.html Click here http://www.usgo.org/congress/2008/staff.html to see the E-Journal Congress Team 
Faint31k [1k\]: why they so slow >>
USGO5 [-\]: Both away from the board at the moment.  ^ ^
Faint31k [1k\]: they can do that Oo
NeverAtari [4k?\]: if they dont mind using their time
kilroy [2d\]: yeah, if it helps them stay relaxed or whatever
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;W[qq]C[Faint31k [1k\]: they proably just trying to piss of their opponet >>
Faint31k [1k\]: by making them wait
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;B[pm]C[Faint31k [-\]: so what every move they take a break Oo
ben1988 [13k\]: how come 8p is black?
ExplO [1d\]: why should he have white?
Faint31k [-\]: pro ranks are different
ben1988 [13k\]: i figured he was stronger
ExplO [1d\]: he is, but having black in an even does not give any advantage
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;W[qn]
;B[rn]
;W[pp]
;B[gq]C[kishambo [4k\]: what about the .5 in the komi? shouldnt this in theory give a LITTLE advantage to one player?
Faint31k [-\]: no pro ranks are different 
Faint31k [-\]: wait is W an amauter?
road2hell [5d\]: yes
Faint31k [-\]: oh
Faint31k [-\]: he isnt pro Oo
Sweetmango: No, he's one of the famous Burrall tribe.
olelund [4d\]: burrall?
Faint31k [-\]: the what Oo
ShinSaito [?\]: does his family play or is it people with the same name?
czy1985 [6k\]: i dun get why pro and high dan players sometimes dun even bother with a corner on the first few moves
ataraf [8k\]: can you gayes play slower i canot folow
Sweetmango: Because the local fight is really urgent.
road2hell [5d\]: because u think too locally
USGO5 [-\]: His family does play.
Sweetmango: The whole family pretty much plays.
ShinSaito [?\]: that;s pretty cool
olelund [4d\]: is that why they're famous?
Sweetmango: Pretty much.
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;W[dm]C[Sweetmango: The son is 7d, dad is 6d...
Sweetmango: There are 7 of them listed in AGA.
Faint31k [-\]: can i clone this game exit it , and have the clone add the new moves?
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;B[do]C[Faint31k [-\]: nvm
Sweetmango: Correction: dad is listed as 5d now
Faint31k [-\]: how do u know so much about them?
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;W[dd]C[road2hell [5d\]: he is a stalker :-)
elohimmeth [2k\]: r10 ?
holynec [2k?\]: the burralls ;-\]
Sweetmango: Well, I've met them, played with Kristen, and just looked them up here:
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;B[pg]C[Sweetmango: http://www.usgo.org/ratings/RatingsQuery.asp
Sweetmango: Oh yeah, and I played rengo against the dad...
Sweetmango: ...and I'm a stalker.
Faint31k [-\]: lol
road2hell [5d\]: i met him in korea. he was studying here for 3 months or so
Sweetmango: That was last summer, right?
road2hell [5d\]: yes
road2hell [5d\]: ah no i think it was already 2 years ago
Sweetmango: Hmmm.  I guess I lost a year somewhere.
biggs [2d\]: the burrall family is pretty strong...
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;W[oe]C[biggs [2d\]: i played against their oldest daughter 3 years back when she was a 1dan
Sweetmango: She represented the US in the international Rengo competition in Japan, with Yuan Zhou.
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;B[pe]
;W[pd]
;B[oc]C[pogomo [?\]: hi sweet mango
Sweetmango: Hi pogomo!
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;W[pf]
;B[qe]C[eXistenZ [?\]: w doesn't look very healthy
jawnaw2000 [9k\]: Go White. I went over to this guy's house a couple weeks ago.
jawnaw2000 [9k\]: Good luck.
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;W[qf]
;B[re]
;W[og]
;B[ne]
;W[of]
;B[rd]
;W[pj]C[TwentyCent [1k\]: it's very hard for white to win
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;B[ci]
;W[eo]
;B[en]
;W[dn]
;B[ep]
;W[fo]
;B[fp]
;W[go]
;B[cf]
;W[dq]
;B[dp]
;W[om]
;B[rl]
;W[cq]
;B[fr]C[eXistenZ [2k?\]: this is too bad
olelund [4d\]: why so?
eXistenZ [2k?\]: just seems like a hard struggle for w
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;W[er]
;B[bq]
;W[br]
;B[bp]C[eXistenZ [2k?\]: w has more open ends. b is so careful to not leave weaknesses. so. just seems difficult to find the right move. 
eXistenZ [2k?\]: only thing i can think of is maybe k5.. i dunno, cap and try to go for moyo
LeT63 [-\]: any problem a2?
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;W[jo]C[eXistenZ [2k?\]: pretty sure, w a2 lives, but just seems such a small cramped life.. considering rest of the board, is it worth making this group live right now?
eXistenZ [2k?\]: o.0
zoom [10k\]: his group cant live
LeT63 [-\]: maybe hane e1 
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;B[fq]C[mahatma [2k\]: oh yeah go matt
mahatma [2k\]: but he's sorta screwed
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;W[jd]
;B[fc]
;W[df]
;B[dg]C[mahatma [2k\]: existenz, a2 then d1
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;W[ef]C[eXistenZ [2k?\]: isn't d14 ill conducive to k5?
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;B[ce]
;W[ed]
;B[hd]C[Snaga [1d?\]: white has nothing
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;W[if]C[LSF [10k\]: white has some influence to the centre
LSF [10k\]: is not much
GoteGote [1d\]: a2 leaves to ko?
Vade [6k\]: they can take his points, but they will never take his freedom!
LSF [10k\]: but is not nothing
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;B[db]C[Evaugh [4k\]: w has quite alot of influence in center, no?
TanGeng [1k?\]: a2 leads to lead
TanGeng [1k?\]: *death
GoteGote [1d\]: oh i see now sorry
Vade [6k\]: this game looks like hands
eXistenZ [2k?\]: a2 > d1 yea?
GoteGote [1d\]: yep
LSF [10k\]: the white group down left in completly shutout, it does not matter for now if it leaves or not
LSF [10k\]: noone will give up sente to deside its fate soon
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;W[ei]C[jawnaw2000 [9k\]: Looks liek WHite is trying to build center territory
eXistenZ [2k?\]: it's dead as it stands. no fate to decide
LSF [10k\]: corrcet
LSF [10k\]: black played 10 stones to kill 5
Nouli [-\]: seems like white is creating a moyo
eXistenZ [2k?\]: well, that seemed to be his only option
LSF [10k\]: the matter is will it be big enough and well will black reduse it
TanGeng [1k?\]: so black has 50 points solid already?
Evaugh [4k\]: its open from many sides still
jawnaw2000 [9k\]: B-N14 now?
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;B[le]C[Evaugh [4k\]: close :)
jawnaw2000 [9k\]: Yes, that meas I'm at least Korean 3P
jawnaw2000 [9k\]: YES!@!!!!
Evaugh [4k\]: congrats :)
LSF [10k\]: I dont use to much the center for teritory n my games, but when I jibiz games like this I have more sympaty to the player building in the middle of the bourd
TanGeng [1k?\]: no big difference between m15 and n14
Evaugh [4k\]: "There is no territory in the center" ;-)
jawnaw2000 [9k\]: TanGen--Thrill killed
jawnaw2000 [9k\]: :)
TanGeng [1k?\]: sorry
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;W[kg]
;B[hf]C[LSF [10k\]: @jawnaw: go guess the half the black moves and I gife you 3p
jawnaw2000 [9k\]: by what authority ;)
LSF [10k\]: my hones gugment :)
jawnaw2000 [9k\]: niiice
olelund [4d\]: who said "There is no terriroty in the center"?
LSF [10k\]: judgement*
Evaugh [4k\]: its one of the go proverbs
LSF [10k\]: i follow that proverb
Evaugh [4k\]: I dont
TanGeng [1k?\]: it's usually true
TanGeng [1k?\]: unless you use your influence correctly
Nouli [-\]: takemya said there is ^^
jawnaw2000 [9k\]: :)
jawnaw2000 [9k\]: Black seems like he's definitely aiming to killR14 stones. IDK though
Evaugh [4k\]: IDK?
jawnaw2000 [9k\]: I don't know
LSF [10k\]: ei I am still 10k, right after I became SDK I will start making huge walls
olelund [4d\]: what is idk, sdk
Evaugh [4k\]: why you think he's aiming for that?
jawnaw2000 [9k\]: Well, H!4 is sente, methinks
LSF [10k\]: this move has multi purposes, reduses moje and ataks 2 groups
clanogrady [4k\]: i think that white is in trouble
LSF [10k\]: it is nice to be 9p
LSF [10k\]: 8p sorry
TanGeng [1k?\]: well if black can capture k16, the game is over
jawnaw2000 [9k\]: agreed
Nouli [-\]: I think white is thinking he is in trouble
clanogrady [4k\]: white D16 group in danger?
LSF [10k\]: I think even 20k player think white is in trouble
clanogrady [4k\]: mmmmmmmmm........
LSF [10k\]: y it looks D16 is in danger
clanogrady [4k\]: nvm
jawnaw2000 [9k\]: unless white supports d-16 stones with this next move, balck will make a move for them. I bet someone a million dollars
jawnaw2000 [9k\]: $1,000,000
Evaugh [4k\]: on whose authority ;)
jawnaw2000 [9k\]: One million Zimbabwee Dollars
LSF [10k\]: its intersting that this black stonen tuches white
LSF [10k\]: there were a proverb in that matter
Altair [7k\]: h13 looks quite good
LSF [10k\]: is here really H14 better then G14?
LSF [10k\]: some dan to explain plz
Evaugh [4k\]: h13 -j13?
TanGeng [1k?\]: how much value will $1000000 Zimbabwee dollars lose between now and when we'll be able to claim it?
HFL [8d\]: the difference between them is too huge
LSF [10k\]: you mean bettween the moves I asked? or about the zimbabwee dolars
TanGeng [1k?\]: the Zimbabwee dollars
Euphorie [-\]: the moves
eXistenZ [2k?\]: seems maybe b figures cutting off k16 works well, and with h14 mor solid with h16 to possibly cut off e16/e14 stones as well
eXistenZ [2k?\]: but i'm just guessing
Euphorie [-\]: if white helps the left stones, black has a stronger attack on the J14 stone
LSF [10k\]: it makes different shape withH16 stone,right
karui [6d\]: h14 has more impact on w 
Euphorie [-\]: it's a useful skill to learn : "leaning attack"
LSF [10k\]: you, i am still at opening and life and death
eXistenZ [2k?\]: i need a teacher >.<
LSF [10k\]: I have to read some other books too
TanGeng [1k?\]: hey you make it to 2k?
TanGeng [1k?\]: no teacher?
TanGeng [1k?\]: nice
LSF [10k\]: it is hard in Bulgaria to find someone how play go
toeree [8k\]: w should resign 
LSF [10k\]: I know ony one and he is under 20k
Euphorie [-\]: he has to struggle then convulsed a bit before
Euphorie [-\]: convulse*
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;W[hg]C[LSF [10k\]: he showed me the game
Euphorie [-\]: G13 ?
LSF [10k\]: and from this point i only read or play online
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;B[ie]
;W[gf]
;B[je]C[jawnaw2000 [9k\]: K16= dead
eXistenZ [2k?\]: now d10 or sth?
TanGeng [1k?\]: wow
TanGeng [1k?\]: ummm
jawnaw2000 [9k\]: K16=dead
jawnaw2000 [9k\]: that is rough
jawnaw2000 [9k\]: k16=dead
jawnaw2000 [9k\]: sorry
jawnaw2000 [9k\]: triple post for the win
LSF [10k\]: h14 is beautiful  sacrifice
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;W[gd]C[jawnaw2000 [9k\]: indded
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;B[gc]C[jawnaw2000 [9k\]: The SE god still has white winning
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;W[he]
;B[id]C[Vade [6k\]: SE works in very mysterious ways
LSF [10k\]: but whiteare still constructing wall towards the centre
LSF [10k\]: it looks more solid now
jawnaw2000 [9k\]: White M3 seems appropriate now
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;W[kq]C[kishambo [4k\]: whites center seems huge
Nouli [-\]: black sides are huge too
jawnaw2000 [9k\]: oh my gosh, I'm a psychic
kishambo [4k\]: yes
LSF [10k\]: jawnaw, for now almost 1p, keep on the good job
jawnaw2000 [9k\]: LOL
LSF [10k\]: @jawnaw: I think I have to ask you for a teaching game after this is over
xval [7k\]: 8p vs 7dan.. impossible
TanGeng [1k?\]: there's at least 20 points in the p10 - n13 area that are not white points
clanogrady [4k\]: well the pros are probably just teachers now
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;B[kr]C[clanogrady [4k\]: still.................
xval [7k\]: how have this level?.... a lot of years of work....
LSF [10k\]: and killer instincs
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;W[kp]
;B[ol]
;W[ok]
;B[pl]
;W[nl]
;B[mg]C[Richdad [5d\]: i get the feeling b is quite more effective than w
xval [7k\]: how old is myungwan?
jawnaw2000 [9k\]: 30 years old
jawnaw2000 [9k\]: So of course, White is going to be more effective.
Evaugh [4k\]: black
jawnaw2000 [9k\]: Being 8p and all
jawnaw2000 [9k\]: sorry black
USGO5 [-\]: Matthew Burell has less than 30 minutes main time left.
clanogrady [4k\]: no real way to reduce black it seems
wgc0409 [1d\]: Hey guys, is the game live or just the playback?
jawnaw2000 [9k\]: live
wgc0409 [1d\]: thanks
fruitdrops [3k\]: how much time b has?
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;W[mf]C[jawnaw2000 [9k\]: seems like a move that took a lot of courage
Gueust [7k\]: a lot of reflexion ;)
Evaugh [4k\]: O14
LSF [10k\]: i whold play n12, so thats the differs 10k and 7d
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;B[nm]
;W[on]
;B[lg]C[TanGeng [1k?\]: n12?
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;W[lf]
;B[nf]C[Altair [7k\]: now black is in the center its over
jawnaw2000 [9k\]: w L14 sente?
LSF [10k\]: w l14 b o13
LSF [10k\]: it not matters if white reduse little black on top, if black reduses white lots in center
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;W[kf]
;B[ng]C[jawnaw2000 [9k\]: LSF were psycics
csgo [?\]: why not l15?
LSF [10k\]: i am going to 1p too...
Evaugh [4k\]: whats your reasoning for l15?
LSF [10k\]: in some dreams
TanGeng [1k?\]: you have to think that this is threatening the right side too
jawnaw2000 [9k\]: P12 group in major trouble now
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;W[rf]
;B[ke]C[Richdad [5d\]: w cant be happy with this
clanogrady [4k\]: well if black responds the reduction in the L then white makes territory in the middle
Richdad [5d\]: there is no center now
clanogrady [4k\]: sorta
clanogrady [4k\]: well
clanogrady [4k\]: white has lost 
Richdad [5d\]: still p2 very bad aji
Richdad [5d\]: later b can r11 for free
Evaugh [4k\]: p2?
Richdad [5d\]: p12
Evaugh [4k\]: ah
clanogrady [4k\]: i think it is sad to see strong players unable to hold their ground
LSF [10k\]: that storng player is playing agains a monster
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;W[nk]C[USGO5 [-\]: Myungwan Kim is very pleasant and unassuming, but  Go monsters come in all shapes and sizes
LSF [10k\]: i think white n14 was too risky
LSF [10k\]: but thats easy to say now, after you see the damage
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;B[dj]C[Uberdude [2d\]: s3 seems large
Gueust [7k\]: i think black is better.
xval [7k\]: ^^
Gueust [7k\]: we will see in 2H xD
USGO5 [-\]: White Resigns.  They are reviewing the game together.   Thank you, KGS; thank you all for watching!
Gueust [7k\]: sure.
Gueust [7k\]: sniff ^^
LSF [10k\]: 10x for broutcasting
USGO5 [-\]: You're welcome.  ;-)
Gueust [7k\]: when does the 3 round take place ?^^
USGO5 [-\]: Tomorrow, same place & time.
Gueust [7k\]: Thx a lot :)
jawnaw2000 [9k\]: thanks
Faint31k [1d\]: game over?
Gueust [7k\]: W resigns.
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